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- INFO-HAMS Digest Thu, 26 Oct 89 Volume 89 : Issue 810
-
- Today's Topics:
- Aviation NAVAIDS (long)
- Cellular Phone via T.V.
- Dipole antenna genius wanted...
- INFO-HAMS Digest V89 #807
- info on Crystal Radio kit or schematic
- Info on KENWOOD TR-2600 A needed!!!
- KENWOOD TH-75A MOD
- Looking for comments on ham dem
- Over-the-horizon Radar (was Re: Radar)
- pre-novice seeking equipment advice
- Radar
- Where do YOU buy parts?
- Wilson HT
- Wondering about 455 kHz
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 19:56:32 GMT
- From: att!cbnewsj!kfr@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (k.redden)
- Subject: Aviation NAVAIDS (long)
-
- In article <8910260703.AA00903@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> MEHARP01@ULKYVM.BITNET (Michael Harpe) writes:
- >
- > Aviation NAVAIDS are some of the slicker applications of radio
- > technology that you will ever find.
- >
- > ILS - Instrument Landing System. System uses radio signals (I don't
- > know what frequency, I think microwave) to generate a glide slope signal
- > to landing aircraft.
-
- The ILS is a combination of two transmitters in the VHF band (108 to
- about 118MHZ). One is positioned a the far end of the runway and is called
- the localizer. It is used to tell if the aircraft is right or left of the
- course to the runway.
-
- The second transmitter, called the glide slope, is positioned along side the
- runway at the point where the aircraft is to touch down. It is used to tell if
- the aircraft is above or below the proper glide path to the touchdown zone.
-
- Together, the ILS provides a 3-deminsional precision approach to the runway.
- The marker beacons are separate low power transmitters used to mark specific
- points along the ILS approach.
-
- >
- > DME - Distance Measuring Equipment. Related to VOR. Gives a dead
- > reckoning distance to the NAVAID generating the signal.
-
- I beleive the DME uses an active interrogation by the aircraft DME transmitter
- of the DME system that is co-located at some VORs. By timing the response,
- the airborne system calculates the distance to the station. This is a measured
- distance and not a dead reckoning position. Note that when directly overhead
- the station, the DME will still show the distance (ie the altitude) to the
- station. I think the DME operates somewhere around 1Ghz (the antenna is about
- 2 inches long).
-
- Kevin Redden
- WB2ZLF
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 15:32:00 GMT-10:00
- From: "NORMAN FUNAMURA" <nfunamura@nuwes-lll.arpa>
- Subject: Cellular Phone via T.V.
-
- 1. Background--Cellular phones occupy 824-848 Mhz (mobile) and 869-894 Mhz
- (base). FM is used and channel spacing is 30 Khz. Mobile/Base spacing is 45
- Mhz. These frequency bands were formerly occupied by UHF-TV Channels 72-76 and
- 80-83+. Shouldn't a TV be able to pick up these signals?????
-
- 2. Connect an antenna to the UHF terminals of a TV. If a UHF antenna is not
- available, just use a piece of wire about a foot long with the ends connected
- to the two UHF terminals.
-
- 3. Turn on the TV and turn up the audio gain (TV's use much wider deviation).
- Slowly tune around channels 80 and 83. Occasional audio should be heard, but
- because the TV audio section requires a 4.5 Mhz signal, audio will be heard
- only when two cellular channels about 4.5 Mhz apart are active.
-
- 4. A second TV (assuming higher local oscillator and about 45 Mhz IF) could
- provide the necessary hetrodyne so that the first TV can detect a single
- incoming signal.
-
- a. Tune the first TV (with UHF antenna) to channel 82 (80-83).
-
- b. Bring the second TV as close as possible to the first and slowly tune
- it around channel 75 (72-76), until audio is heard...or
-
- c. Retune by small increments...set the first TV, then sweep the second
- etc.
-
- 5. DISCLAIMER!!!!! Try this at your own risk......don't know the
- legalities/illegalities of listening to cellular phones......
-
-
-
- 73 Norman
- KH6R
-
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 89 00:42:54 GMT
- From: tomas@apple.com (Tom Taylor)
- Subject: Dipole antenna genius wanted...
-
- This past weekend I built a three band dipole antenna for the 40, 30, and
- 17 meter bands. The antenna is the type with one center and three separate
- legs, separated by spacers. I tuned the antenna when it was about 5 feet
- off the ground. The antenna tuned very nicely with low SWR across each band
- and 1:1 SWR somewhere in the band. Next, I raised the center of the antenna
- and mounted it near the top of my crank up tower. At this point, the tower
- was cranked down and the center of the dipole was about 25 feet in the air.
- Each leg drooped down to about 8 feet in the air. I checked the SWR and
- found that the 1:1 low point had shifted down in frequency by about 200kHz
- on the 40 and 30 meter bands (probably expected) and had not changed on 17
- meters. After tuning the antenna again to get 1:1 point in the middle of
- the bands, I cranked up the tower to about 45 feet and raised the ends to
- about 15 feet. When I checked the SWR, I found that the low point on the
- 40 and 30 meter bands was no longer 1:1, but about 2:1. Of course, the
- band edges were at least 3:1 (instead of under 2:1). The SWR on the 17
- meter band was still ok. What's the problem? I can understand the SWR
- low point shifting when the antenna was raised. I can't understand,
- however, why the SWR low point is no longer low. Can anyone help?
-
- Picture of antenna:
- @-----------------------------------@@----------------------------------@
- |-----------------------------/ \------------------------|
- |-----------/ \---------|
-
- Tom Taylor - AA6BR
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu 26 Oct 89 21:03:28-CDT
- From: ATISD-DOOI.XP@GUNTER-ADAM.AF.MIL
- Subject: INFO-HAMS Digest V89 #807
-
- subj: buying equipment cheap overseas
- This is in reply to WF2K's question on buying equipment for a good price
- overseas----
- It aint worth it! First off, the dollar is of such low value these
- days that you can buy the same gear for less at the discount places
- here in the USA. Second, the warentee is practically useless...it is
- almost impossible to get service from the stateside dealers on a Japanese
- bought rig. Third, many of the rigs overseas are not the same as those
- sold in the states....for example, on their two meter rigs---they go from
- 144 to 146.oo MHZ...their band is not the same as ours...I found it
- fun to look around the ham radio electronics district in Tokyo (called
- Akie ---harbra)...I bought a few odds and ends, but nothing big....also, buy
- a Japaneese CQ magazine...it's about an inch and a half thick!!! Its
- hard (for me) to reed Japanese, but fun to look at the pictures!!!
- Have fun,
- 73,
- Marv, WG4Q
- -------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 21:54:37 GMT
- From: uokmax!norlin@apple.com (NARC ONE)
- Subject: info on Crystal Radio kit or schematic
-
- In article <758@ccssrv.UUCP> sterling@ccssrv.UUCP (Sterling Huxley) writes:
- >
- >As a Christmas present I thought I would give my nephew a crystal radio kit.
- >I've looked around and can only find a cheap kit from Radio Shack.
- >[stuff deleted...]
- >Does anyone know where a reasonable kit can be purchased?
-
- The Radio Shack kit is, actually, acceptable. I got one for Christmas when
- I was nine years old, and it was quite thrilling. To this day, I still have
- it, and it still works. Only thing you might consider adding on to the kit
- is a longer antenna. They only provide 10 feet of wire for the antenna, and
- 10 feet for the ground (at least, when I got mine). It was kind of
- disheartening at first, because the short antenna did not give enough
- signal strength to pick up any stations at first, and I was afraid it didn't
- work. So, my advice is just stick with the Radio Shack kit and buy some
- antenna wire to go with it, and your nephew should be quite happy.
-
- --
- Norman Lin
-
- This is my humble signature file.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 89 00:03:58 GMT
- From: sco!stevebe@uunet.uu.net (Steve Beecher)
- Subject: Info on KENWOOD TR-2600 A needed!!!
-
- I have a Kenwood TR-2600 A that I have a couple of questions about.
- First of all, I was wondering how to use the Telephone Autopatch system
- for business and/or personal use, i.e. extra licences needed, who I need
- to contact, how to operate it on my unit, where to find out the frequencies,
- etc. Is the TU-35B tone unit needed for this? Do I need to buy one, or is
- it something different entirely. Secondly, I would like to know if there
- are any mod.s available to increase the scan speed of the TR-2600 A. It
- is very slow as is stands. Anyone with answers to either of these questions
- I would appreciate email to me. Thanks!!!!
-
-
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Steve Beecher
- Software/Hardware Technician
- Computer Services
- The Santa Cruz Operation
- E-mail: ...!uunet!sco!stevebe stevebe@sco.COM
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 89 15:19 CDT
- From: SURESH KAGOO N9GSA/4S7??? <SKAGOO%MEMSTVX1.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>
- Subject: KENWOOD TH-75A MOD
-
- TH-75A MARS/CAP MODIFICATION
- ----------------------------
-
- This modification will allow the TH-75A to transmit from 142 to 152 MHz and 420
- to 450 MHz. Specifications are guaranteed for the Amateur Bands only. Through
- the transceiver will display 136 to 174 MHz and 335 to 512 MHz, the PLL circuit
- may not lock through the entire range.
-
- CAUTION
- -------
-
- Protect your license. Make sure that you operate on authorized frequencies
- only.
-
-
-
- MODIFICATION PROCEDURE
- ----------------------
-
- 1. Disconnect the battery and antenna.
-
- 2. Remove the three case screws and two battery plate screws.
-
- 3. Lift the front panel from the body of the transceiver, but do not
- disconnect the two flex cables.
-
- 4. Cut the green jumper wire (W1) that is located to the left side of
- the CPU in the front panel assembly.
-
- 5. Assemble the transceiver by reversing steps 1-3.
-
- 6. Reset the CPU by holding the M key as the power is turned on.
-
-
- I have tried it and it works.
-
- Suresh Kagoo N9GSA/4S7??? Memphis State University
- Memphis, Tennessee
-
- Internet : SKAGOO@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
- Bitnet : SKAGOO@MEMSTVX1
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 89 00:40:26 GMT
- From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
- Subject: Looking for comments on ham dem
-
- > 1. Remember that they probably don't understand how a flashlight
- > works. Demonstrate electric shock: Connect a few 9v batteries in
- > series, enough to feel with wet fingers. Use kids holding hands to
- > demonstrate series circuits. Demonstrate again using battery,
- > lightbulb and switch. Let them play with it for a while.
-
- Definitely **DO**NOT** do this. An electric shock across the heart (such
- as would be the case in a chain of kids holding hands) can be **FATAL**.
-
- Limit demonstrations of electric shock to where the electric path does NOT
- involve the heart or other organs. A wet finger and 2 9v batteries might
- be OK. You might also try touching the tip of your tongue to a single 9v
- battery (or lesser voltage from other cells).
-
- Another demonstration you might try is this: take a couple of lantern type
- batteries in series for 12-24 volts, and attach one end to a tin can with
- all it's metal exposed. In the other, use a clamp of some sort to hold some
- thin (30 gauge or so) metal wire. Have a lot of the wire on hand. Touch
- the wire to the can and see a quick spark and let it fuse to the can. Now
- the wire will be heating up due to the short and will soon break in the middle
- after it turns red. Repeat the process in several places on the can and you
- will soon have a "hairy" can.
-
- --Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
- <phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 23:23:43 GMT
- From: attctc!sampson@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Steve Sampson)
- Subject: Over-the-horizon Radar (was Re: Radar)
-
- For those interested - The OTH-B Over The Horizon Backscatter radar on the
- east coast is operational with about 180 degrees of coverage. A west coast
- system is nearing completion. The final site in the Dakotas will look south
- 180 degrees. North looking has been a problem due to the Northern lights and
- otherwise poor propogation. These HF radars use the Ionosphere to bounce the
- radar pulses in vertical and horizontal sweep. They are very long range and
- have no short range capability (say inside 200 miles). There are also many
- portable systems in use by the Navy, while the USAF is only interested in
- fixed sites. Portable meaning rapidly set up, not small.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 21:11:57 GMT
- From: m2c!umvlsi!dime!cs.umass.edu@husc6.harvard.edu (DYRK)
- Subject: pre-novice seeking equipment advice
-
- I am seeking some advice from the net about equipment in
- general.
- I am currently studying for my novice exam. I am also finishing
- my dissertation in CS so I have little time to visit clubs etc.
- Just enough time to squeeze in some code practice between
- research and writing diss.
-
- There are various sources that say one should start out with an
- "economy" transceiver (I guess this means the low end Kenwood,
- Yaesu, Icom HF transceivers, CB, SSB, etc. mode, 160 to 10 m,
- 100 or 200 W PEP),
- even though novice priviliges dont allow
- one to use it all the features immediately. Buying such a thing
- would give immediate success which is important for a novice.
- They are also useful when upgrading.
-
- On the other hand I do like to tinker and build my own
- equipment. I could not find a kit or something like that for a
- so called economy transceiver. The only thing is a QRP kit from
- Heath which definitely does not fall in the above category.
-
- Are there other kits or sets? Should one start with QRP
- anyways? Is it best to initially forget about building yourself
- and buying something solid? I'm quite confused.
-
-
- Thanks for your help,
-
- Dirk Mahling
-
- mahling@cs.umass.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 89 00:40:20 GMT
- From: gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
- Subject: Radar
-
- > I think not. The Krasnoyarsk site was unfinished, whereas the Russian
- > woodpecker has been around for years.
-
- I've heard that it is in fact actually operating, and is simply not fully
- implemented as their original plans were to have it. I still don't know
- the specifications. I know that both THEY and WE are using and/or planning
- to use less obvious spread spectrum.
-
- --Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
- <phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 21:35:00 GMT
- From: ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
- Subject: Where do YOU buy parts?
-
- > Though I have catalogs for all of the following:
- >
- > All Electronics
- > Amidon Associates
- > Circuit Specialists
- > DC Electronics
- > Digi Key
- > Fair Radio
- > Jameco
- > Newark
- > RadioKit
- > Star Electronics
- > Surplus Sales of Nebraska
-
- Can you post phone numbers (800 numbers preferred)? That way we can all
- call them and ask for catalogs and say we heard it on USENET:rec.ham-radio
- or INFOHAMS Digest.
-
- --Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
- <phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Oct 89 00:40:41 GMT
- From: cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!phil@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
- Subject: Wilson HT
-
- > I have resurrected my old Wilson Mark IV HT after many years of inactivity, and
- > find the NICAD battery pack is shot. I tried to call Wilson, but they appear
- > to be out of business.
- >
- > Does anyone out there:
- >
- > 1.) Have a battery pack they'd be willing to sell ? or,
- > 2.) Know where I could get one ? or,
- > 3.) Know what became of Wilson Electronics (based in Las Vegas) ?
- >
- > Thank you for any information you could provide.
-
- Call places like Periphex, W&W Associates, and Mr. Nicad (ads in QST and HR
- magazines) and see if they have replacement cells or inserts.
-
- --Phil Howard, KA9WGN--
- <phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Oct 89 14:58:12 GMT
- From: asuvax!stjhmc!f1.n234.z1.fidonet.org!Jim.Grubs@handies.ucar.edu (Jim Grubs)
- Subject: Wondering about 455 kHz
-
- > From: jpb@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
-
- > Does anyone out there know how 455 kHz got to be such a popular IF ?
- > Why 455, (as opposed to 450 or 500, e.g.)?
-
- So broadcast band images would not fall inside the band.
-
-
- fall inside the band.
-
- --
- Uucp: ...{gatech,ames,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!stjhmc!234!1!Jim.Grubs
- Internet: Jim.Grubs@f1.n234.z1.fidonet.org
-
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